hannah_went:
Welcome to the Everything Epigenetics podcast, Lindsay. I am excited to have you today.
lindsey:
Thank you so much for having me. This is going to be so much fun.
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
Been looking forward
hannah_went:
And
lindsey:
to it for weeks.
hannah_went:
to everyone
lindsey:
Ha ha.
hannah_went:
who’s listening, thanks for hopping on. I think this will be a very unique episode. I was just chatting with Lindsay offline because we’re going to talk about what she does and her main focus being epigenetic coaching. So it may be a little bit different from the episodes that you’ve heard me do previously in the best way. But I want to get into a little bit of your, your background, Lindsay. You know, you teach meditation, you read genetics through more of that epigenetics lens. And you really empower others to, reach new levels through wellness. And I think that’s just amazing. So you’re combining this practical and magic, life type transformation for people. So how do you do this? And maybe the best question to start with is, where do you start? I’d love to hear a little bit more about you and your journey.
lindsey:
Yeah, definitely. I collected a lot of hats along the way and honestly, kind of like it all started from when I was
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
very sick. I was sick to where nobody really knew what was going on and it wasn’t even things that were obvious. So I always looked like I was fine, which sometimes is the most frustrating. But yeah, I was really kind of like so many people in the wellness industry through kind of a twisty-turny journey of my own. And I would say a lot of it really started probably about 10 years ago. I made a lot of changes in my health. I actually will tell you one of the biggest turning points for me was I lost half my body weight. And that’s about 10 years ago. So when I was almost 30 ish, I was probably like late 28, 29 or something. I realized that I was headed down a path that was not really serving to me or to anyone else in my life. And I really started to understand that what I was doing on the day to day was really giving me the result that I was had a lot more power in my control than I had given myself credit for. And that’s like the biggest nutshell. But basically, I started really getting into nutrition. I started going through some certifications and trainings. While I was going through this massive weight loss journey, I lost 150 pounds, no surgery, no medications, just literally by changing my diet pretty much. I wasn’t really even
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
exercising at the time. So it was really just about nutrition. And what really And after that, so many things, it was kind of like I was cracking open into my awareness of what I really knew to be true and what I really, the way that I was treating myself in so many ways. And so along that path, I really started to get into much more of like a spiritual journey, really kind of dealing with a lot of the changes that I was going through. So not only kind of learning some of the practical things like about nutrition and supplementing and exercising and sleep and all the things that are really involved. but also kind of learning some tools like meditation and processing a lot of the emotions that were coming up after being in
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
a different body basically. And it was, they were all really parts of my journey that I don’t think I would be here today talking to you if any of those pieces had been in a different place or hadn’t happened. And so they’re tools that really I think shaped who I am and what I’m doing. And I love, love, love sharing them with the world. of has always been really one that, you know, we all hear these things
hannah_went:
Hmm.
lindsey:
like you can’t out-supplement a bad diet. And we all know that if you’re not sleeping, if you’re running on stress, all of these things, this holistic approach is really, you know, the means to success. I think it looks different to everyone. So I think what I found to be the most efficient and the most impactful were some of these kind of more nuanced tools,
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
like the breathwork, for example, and things like that, that just were mind-blowing to me at the time. and now they’re parts of my daily life that I can’t really imagine
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
functioning without. So it’s been a fun ride. I will say I actually discovered genomics kind of
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
towards the latter part of my whole journey and I always joke I’m like man if I would have had this 10 years ago it
hannah_went:
Right.
lindsey:
would have been
hannah_went:
Yeah, compiled
lindsey:
game on.
hannah_went:
with everything you were already realizing
lindsey:
So
hannah_went:
and doing and changing and being driven by wanting to make a change.
lindsey:
Yeah, exactly. So, you know, I feel like I always
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
say like I took the long way so
hannah_went:
Oh.
lindsey:
that other people don’t have to, perhaps, but it’s been a very, very interesting journey. I went and tried a moment of it. All of the learnings and all of the trainings and things that I have collected over the years have really come full circle
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
through the lens of genomics.
hannah_went:
I, I
lindsey:
So
hannah_went:
love that. That’s super
lindsey:
that’s
hannah_went:
powerful.
lindsey:
my favorite part.
hannah_went:
Yeah. I think the genomics part ties everything together, but you learn that afterwards and say, no, if I only had this one tool to figure out everything
lindsey:
Bye.
hannah_went:
beforehand and you know, the genomic part is definitely taking out the guesswork, maybe, right? Um, so it’s, it’s, it’s a good
lindsey:
Yes.
hannah_went:
guide and lead
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
way. And I think that was also really interesting how you talked about, okay, I’m making these changes. I’m, you know, losing this way. I’m in a different body now. And with that comes those spiritual changes. And I think that’s like very profound. too, because, um, yeah, stress is one that I like to talk about because I can relate to it the most. I’m just a naturally stressed out person. So, um, kind of one of my little new year’s resolutions or something that I wanted to get better at is just incorporating meditation, breath work and whatnot. And, um, I just go on YouTube every night, hit like 10 minute meditation. It was getting really repetitive.
lindsey:
Let’s go.
hannah_went:
I kept doing the same one, um, and, you know, listening maybe to the
lindsey:
Bye.
hannah_went:
same, same brand. Um, but now I actually use, um, which I think you’re familiar with. too, because I think I saw you shared on your Instagram, um, other ship. I use that app. So yeah.
lindsey:
gosh,
hannah_went:
And
lindsey:
the best.
hannah_went:
shout
lindsey:
They
hannah_went:
out to
lindsey:
are
hannah_went:
their,
lindsey:
incredible.
hannah_went:
their owner, um, Robbie and, uh, he’s, he’s great, but was, was able to download that app and they just have so many choices and it’s much more peaceful. And, um, they actually have the guided breathwork, which I think is super interesting rather than just doing the meditation. So I just started that about a couple of weeks ago or so, but I’m loving it. And, um, starting to notice some, some changes. And again, I’m, I’m able to fall asleep and relax more peacefully than I previously could. So it’s great. I love it.
lindsey:
Yes, wonderful. That’s so exciting. I can’t wait
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
to circle back to this conversation later when we
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
dive into some of the juicy gems
hannah_went:
Yeah, no,
lindsey:
from your testing.
hannah_went:
definitely. So we’re gonna hop right into it. Talk about, you know, what you do now. And
lindsey:
Thank you. Thank you.
hannah_went:
of course, you are the founder of the designer jeans Co. I remember, I think I just found you again on Instagram, I was like scrolling looking at people who talked about epigenetics. And I was like, Whoa, her profile looks awesome. I checked out your website and the
lindsey:
Oh.
hannah_went:
design and like the look and feel. I think that’s, you know, something that goes unnoticed sometimes. like how much effort and work that that can take from a design perspective. So I just, you know, love your brand and everything you stand for. So yeah, tell us a little bit more about your, your company and what you do.
lindsey:
Well, thank you so much. That’s honestly like the ultimate compliment. It’s kind of like my baby. My brand is kind of my baby. And it’s definitely kind of created a life of its own, I would say, over the past five years. I came into this field feeling almost just a smidge as if I were a baby over my head. I’m really wondering, is this something that I’m going to do? But I will tell you, fun fact that very few people may guess about me. I was super nerd when I was a kid. and see like I was just very into that life. And so this honestly in hindsight makes a lot of sense for me. But yeah, basically my approach is honestly to help to get this technology into as many lives as possible. And to honestly just kind of wake up a lot of conversations around wellness and around a lot of mixed information, a lot of overwhelm that we have these days thanks to the wonderful world of the internet and things like Instagram that are such amazing tools. And honestly, you know, the thing that I love about it that’s also kind of a catch 22 is that everyone
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
these days can have a voice and a platform and everyone, so many different types of people and perspectives love sharing. And this is something that we’re all kind of benefiting from. But at the end of the day, also, it comes down to a lot of people who don’t really know how to filter through
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
this much information. And, you know, this is kind of the client that I typically tend to serve is I work mostly with women, I do readings for men and children and stuff like that, but primarily women. And a lot of times I’m finding women, Hannah, that have been through
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
all of the TikTok rabbit holes. They’ve been through the Facebook groups and the Google, and they’re honestly more confused than they
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
ever have been. They’ve maybe gotten some like fragmented bits of information from their practitioners and they just, they honestly just don’t know what’s going on with their bodies. And especially with women, we kind of get the short end of the stick in some ways, because we have much more complex chemistries. And just when you think you haven’t figured out, then guess what? Things are gonna start to shift in a different direction. And so it’s one of those things where it’s shocking to me how little information and proper education that women have around their own bodies and their own hormones and functions and optimization. So I’m kind of on this mission, if you will, to help to educate people and help them to understand that just because someone else in a Facebook group is doing, you know, X, Y, and Z supplements and blah, blah, blah, or spending money on these protocols and whatever have it, what have you, doesn’t necessarily mean that they need to jump
hannah_went:
Right.
lindsey:
in and do it as well. And that there’s just a different, there’s
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
a different way, you know, and it’s okay to invest in yourself if it means that you’re going to be empowered to work a little bit smarter instead of trying all
hannah_went:
Yeah,
lindsey:
the things
hannah_went:
I
lindsey:
in the
hannah_went:
think
lindsey:
world.
hannah_went:
as helpful as the internet and Instagram is and TikTok, you’re right. It’s so great. I mean, the technology kind of this
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
technology revolution we’re undergoing is amazing. But at the same time, there’s so much of the dark web and the black market of different things that people may be trying to sell you something or it just becomes really confusing. And then you’re looking up all of these different green supplements and you don’t know. You’ve bought in like 10. I bought 10 of them and now you’re out a lot of cash and you’re stuck and you have no idea what to do. So I think that’s why I love what you do so much is because you
lindsey:
Yep.
hannah_went:
make it simple. You’re able to take them through something that’s been proven to work and we’ll talk about that because I’ve gone through this program with Lindsay
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
and we’re gonna talk about some of the information she found from my particular genetic makeup. So I just really love what you stand for and again, especially as it relates to women’s health. We see a lot of these interventional trials be published They’re all very exciting and then you dig a little bit deeper and you realize it was only done in men who are much older, right? So I think just bringing awareness and light to that situation too can be very very valuable. So we’ll talk about those those
lindsey:
Thank you very much.
hannah_went:
kind of
lindsey:
Thank you.
hannah_went:
programs that you offer, you know, when when I go to your website again, you make it super simple. It looks like you have two options for for customers and I really want to dive down into each of them because if anyone listening is interested, It’d be great if they could reach out and contact you afterwards if you’re taking new patients. So you’re scrolling down, you have epigenetics coaching,
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
and then you have the life lab. So let’s start with epigenetic
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
coaching. What is that? What does that entail?
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
What could maybe a customer journey look like?
lindsey:
Yeah, totally. This is kind of like the foundation of my entire company. So this is something that I literally recommend for every human being. And I think, I think that someday, Hannah, we will see the day come in our lifetime where it’s a no brainer that you wouldn’t dare even
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
try a medication or a different diet, or you wouldn’t do really anything unless you have a foundational and working knowledge
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
of your genetic wiring. And so that’s kind of our starting point for most people. And honestly,
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
the simplest thing you swab your cheek. And that’s what surprises most people is like, you don’t even have to give blood to do this. And so it’s a really wonderful modality. It’s something that gets shipped to the client’s home, they can swab their cheeks and it back to our fabulous lab for processing. And it just takes around a month or so. And then we sit down and do a deep dive. And so this is really our point of difference. We always always always
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
do a one on one consultation or a reading slash coaching session, whatever you want to call it, with every biggest crux of efficacy, I think, in the genomics world is understanding, first of
hannah_went:
Mm.
lindsey:
all, this much information, but also understanding how your entire lived experience is going to impact
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
your genetic expression. So this is one thing where a lot of the automated testing has great intention, and I think definitely there’s some value there. I think it’s just not quite where it needs to be as far as really real life interpretation, because everything that you’re doing, everything that you’re doing, everything that you’re you’ve done. So for example, my past 40 years, there are a lot of things that have happened that will greatly impact the way that I would read
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
my own report, hypothetically, right. And so it’s very important that you don’t just take these genes at face value, because sometimes they
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
can be pretty misleading. Talk about overwhelm, you know, especially when you’re looking through so many different systems at the body, so many different really complex chemical pathways and things like that, you really need someone to kind of help sift everything and apply it to where you’re at today, what’s happening in your current expression, as well as your current goals. Because otherwise you could look at the same report and get really
hannah_went:
Yes.
lindsey:
a million different interpretations and action plans that would all be right, but maybe not
hannah_went:
Mm.
lindsey:
right for right now, if that makes sense. So that’s one thing that I’m really passionate about and hoping to really change the space genomics coaching and step away from everyone trying to automate everything. I know, you know, there’s so many different. perspectives and people that will tell you that, oh, if you’re going to scale a company, you have to automate everything. And it’s not going to be profitable if you don’t do everything by automation. And I just don’t see it
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
giving really any value. I can’t imagine the operation of giving an automated test report with this kind of technology. I just don’t
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
think it computes. So that’s kind of our baseline is that personal touch. Now, of course, I will say, you know, we start with a single session. Many, many, many people do benefit from a little bit more whether it’s
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
like Q&A continued or some follow-up coaching, depending on the person. Also, I will say so
hannah_went:
Thank
lindsey:
many
hannah_went:
you.
lindsey:
people are self-starters and I do tend to attract a lot of people who have been through a lot already. They’ve been through a lot of functional testing. They have a great awareness of their own habits and things like that. So some people can truly take the one-time coaching session
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
and hit the ground running and get incredible results. So I think there’s a lot of power in that as well. But actually leading into the Life Lab, I started doing things a little bit differently this year and I started rolling all of my coaching, all my bells and whistles
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
into a membership model. So it’s a women’s coaching group and I will say it’s pretty awesome. The women who are in this group are all really kind of going through similar things and I think the community element is huge. But essentially that’s where they could come in and if they need a follow up session, they can do that. If they want to do something like peptide coaching or some of the other fun modalities that I work with, then they can do that. need help with something more advanced like gut health, for example, then they can
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
go and order a gut test or
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
things like that. And it’s all kind of a la carte. So these are things that I’ve kind of offered in private coaching for the past few years. And I just really needed to focus in a different direction this year as I’m growing the brand and training more coaches now, that’s the other big piece of what I’m doing this year. That’s kind of where I’m focusing a lot of my energy. And it just made a lot of sense to put all of these other tools and packages instead of just working with fewer clients for a more intensive
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
container or six months or something like that at a time, let’s just make it simple. I don’t really see a lot of people doing this, but oh my gosh, it feels so good to just give people the the rights to kind of create their own experience and feel supported
hannah_went:
Yeah,
lindsey:
in whatever
hannah_went:
that’s
lindsey:
they
hannah_went:
great.
lindsey:
need.
hannah_went:
I am so appreciative again that you’re doing this and you’re changing kind of the stage. You’re setting the stage, I would say for this type of package membership program model, whatever you’d like to call it. So yes, I have so many questions. For the
lindsey:
Ha ha.
hannah_went:
epigenetic coaching so many questions and comments, I should say for the epigenetic coaching is that required
lindsey:
home.
hannah_went:
if someone wants to work with you first like you require them to do the one on one first or can they hop right into life lab. Okay.
lindsey:
They can hop into Life Lab, but I will say there are just so many values to actually getting that initial testing done.
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
It’s strongly
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
suggested because here’s the thing, like it will solve so many things
hannah_went:
Yep.
lindsey:
in one swoop. It’s like the most bang for your buck. So I’ve never seen someone not benefit tremendously from
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
doing it very early on. But yeah, definitely there are different cases where someone might want to come into the membership and start with something that may be more pressing in their own health. So for example, if they’re number one. pressing concern is maybe
hannah_went:
Mm.
lindsey:
like GI dysfunction for example, then maybe it does make sense for them to start with a little bit of a different specialty or something with a little bit more attention in that department. But yeah, eventually I would say it would make sense to have those insights additionally.
hannah_went:
Yeah,
lindsey:
But yeah, we’re
hannah_went:
that
lindsey:
pretty
hannah_went:
makes
lindsey:
flexible.
hannah_went:
sense. I think there’s so much value in the one versus one conversation. I personally, my two senses, I think everyone
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
should do that first. Just to meet you two and to like understand
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
and have a connection because I think connecting with, you know, your, I don’t know, I guess, epigenetic coach or, you know, your, your provider, whoever you’re having those conversations with, it’s important to, to, you know, meet each other and understand how everything works. And like you said, the genetics, you know, you have these genetic variants going to change, but they’re not necessarily the full story. Right? So we’ve learned stuff about our genes and what they mean over time and what we’re doing and how they’re being affected. So just because even maybe you did a review, you know, five, 10 years ago, I mean, they could mean something completely different as more studies are coming out and we’re learning a little bit more. So it may be the case that people may, like you said, come back for more consultations because there’s so much science and so much of literature that we have to go through. Um, you do a really great
lindsey:
Thank you.
hannah_went:
job
lindsey:
Thank you.
hannah_went:
at that of more like custom reporting dependent on people’s results, would you say? Is that correct? Okay.
lindsey:
Yeah, definitely. And I think that’s the thing is like understanding where an individual is right now, what their current goals are, and also kind of giving them some foundational insights. So anytime we look at a genetics report, we can actually see some of
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
the maintenance things, if you will. So there are a lot of things that a person can benefit from for long term. So for example, certain types of micronutrients, certain dietary preferences and things like that that are not likely to ebb and flow or shift very much. But then of So take
hannah_went:
Thank
lindsey:
estrogen
hannah_went:
you. Sure.
lindsey:
levels, for example, that’s something that’s, you know, greatly going to change as far as what’s appropriate for that individual over the course of five years, 10 years
hannah_went:
Sure.
lindsey:
and beyond.
hannah_went:
Yeah. And who
lindsey:
So
hannah_went:
would be
lindsey:
yeah.
hannah_went:
like the perfect candidate? I know you said like anyone, but, um, you know, even if someone has like had their genetics tested before, could they, um, still like send you that raw data file and you could still interpret them with, would that be okay too? Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
Sometimes it depends. I will say a lot of people have asked if I do any of
hannah_went:
Bye.
lindsey:
the like 23 and me or ancestry or those. And I typically don’t just because there’s such a big difference in the product
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
that I typically produce, that the service that I provide,
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
and some of those smaller tests. Not that they’re completely, not to shame them or anything like that, because so many people have started
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
with that as a point of entry, but typically it’s kind of just a lot of missing information or a lot of smaller insights that aren’t really the full experience
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
So I usually do recommend going with a practitioner grade test. There are a couple others that I can actually sit with. But again, I think it really just depends
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
on the
hannah_went:
It
lindsey:
case
hannah_went:
does,
lindsey:
by
hannah_went:
it
lindsey:
case
hannah_went:
does matter because
lindsey:
or
hannah_went:
again,
lindsey:
detail.
hannah_went:
the, to give the listeners a little bit of background, just because you get your genes tested with 23 and me, it’s not all of them, right? It doesn’t mean that Lindsey would be testing the same exact set of genes. So you may not even have the markers that she wants to look at as it pertains to your health and maybe she’s most interested in. So that’s really, I think the, the main difference there. Um, but yes,
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
I want to go over a couple of my results and then we’ll, we’ll hop around and go through it. Um, so. Yes. So if you want to give an introduction, I went through Lindsay’s program. It was absolutely amazing.
lindsey:
Thank you. Thank
hannah_went:
I got
lindsey:
you.
hannah_went:
a lot of feedback on, you know, my genetics and how I’m basically wired and what I can do to help, you know, give support to my genes, thus maybe resulting in better sleep,
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
less stress, you know, better, you know, fitness levels. And again, maybe what’s best just for my body and health overall. So Lindsay, I think the two we are going to go over today, it’s the comp T and then the BDNF, correct? Is that am I pronouncing those correctly? Okay.
lindsey:
Yeah, the comp, some people say comp, some
hannah_went:
Okay.
lindsey:
people say comp T, some people say CUMT. I always say CUMT
hannah_went:
Heh heh.
lindsey:
because I just spell everything out. I don’t know. It’s more fun that way for me. But yes, all the same thing. So that one is one of my favorites. I will tell you, it tells me so much about a person’s just quirks and personalities. And definitely there are some significant impact things that we want to look at that may be showing up or might need a little bit of fine tuning. So CUMT is one of the things. of those that I can tell you, there’s two categories. And there are also, well, technically there are three categories, but most of the time, if we see someone who is one extreme or the other, it’s just kind of a funny thing, right? So this is a great conversation because you have a type AA,
hannah_went:
Oh.
lindsey:
I have a type GG. So
hannah_went:
Oh.
lindsey:
we’re essentially
hannah_went:
Oh.
lindsey:
opposites. Okay. Yeah. So this one’s really cool. It’s worked out perfectly. Um, so yes, just to reiterate, there are a lot of people who were going to have the type AG who were kind of a little blend of both. and kind of unique set of quirks. But this particular family of genes is actually one that people tend to refer to as the worriers versus the warriors. So I don’t know if you’ve ever heard that before. Which would you guess if you had to take a stab would you think you are a worrier or
hannah_went:
I
lindsey:
a
hannah_went:
would want
lindsey:
worrier?
hannah_went:
to hope that I’m a warrior, like the, you know, the fighting one, but I’m definitely, I think a warrior, I would say. Is that right? Okay, yeah.
lindsey:
Yeah, that’s right. That’s right. So I was cracking up. You mentioned earlier that you were, how did you word it, something
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
about just a naturally stressed, more stressed person or tendencies or things like that. And yes, that’s absolutely conducive or indicative of someone who carries this particular version of the CUMT. So that would be what we would call a worrier. So with these particular clients, we tend to see a couple of specific things. So quite often you don’t
hannah_went:
Mmm.
lindsey:
sleep that well. So a lot of different sleep indications show up that are again, not that it’s causation, it’s totally correlation, but a lot of times we see people with the type AA having more like
hannah_went:
And.
lindsey:
disturbed sleep. So maybe a lighter sleeper also can be delayed sleep onset. So these are people who may have a difficult time winding down in the evening. Sometimes you’ll be a shorter sleeper. So if you’re getting six or seven hours, that might feel
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
like your max just based on your own personal patterns. the way that it’s actually impacting chemistry. So it’s actually clearing things like norepinephrine, dopamine, and things like that
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
at a slower pace, whereas my chemistry clears them much faster. So for contrast, my personality or my CUMT is the warrior with an A, WA, warrior. We tend to
hannah_went:
Ha ha ha
lindsey:
not
hannah_went:
ha
lindsey:
realize how stressed we are. We tend to be a little bit more aloof, and sometimes can like hold things in and we’re like, oh, I’m fine, until we are
hannah_went:
Gotcha.
lindsey:
not fine. right? Or sometimes we’re kind of bottling things up and we’re just powering through because that’s what feels, you
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
know, normal to us. Whereas the worrier type, the other type, has a tendency to be a little bit more sensitive to stress. So they might have more, you know, outward, they might show their stress capacity for being
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
a little bit smaller. And they might need to take things a little bit differently as far
hannah_went:
Mm.
lindsey:
as pacing out their workday, you know, setting boundaries for themselves and things like that. So it’s just a really interesting place to stop. That’s like, it’s literally one gene
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
and that doesn’t tell the whole story for the record. So of course there are gonna be people who are your type or my type who it may not resonate with, but almost always I will say, it’s a very, very high percentage of times
hannah_went:
That’s
lindsey:
where
hannah_went:
me. Ha
lindsey:
people will
hannah_went:
ha.
lindsey:
be like, yep, that’s me. And you know, the other thing that’s really interesting when we start to get really micro into looking at specific markers, there are always pros and cons, right? like bad genes, right? So, and you know, a lot of people will use the term like mutations and things like that. And I just, I really cringe at that verbiage because I feel like that’s
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
kind of just off-putting and maybe like discouraging, you know? So not to split hairs, but there are always variations and some of these variations have some positive indications and some maybe less desirable indications. So this is another gene that also helps to process things like histamines and estrogens and things like that. So depending other factors, you may also be someone who needs a little bit more support with clearing out this histamines, clearing out estrogens, if those
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
things that are symptomatic in your life right now, that’s a great place to actually have those insights. So beyond just some of the more funny, quirky personality type traits, there are some different chemistries
hannah_went:
Yeah, yeah.
lindsey:
that are associated.
hannah_went:
That’s very cool.
lindsey:
So,
hannah_went:
I like how we’re opposites too, so you can
lindsey:
it
hannah_went:
give
lindsey:
was very cool,
hannah_went:
the
lindsey:
right?
hannah_went:
explanations and whatnot. Yeah, I hope my mom listens to this episode because
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
I’ll blame her. She worries about everything, so I think she passed it on to me and I worry. And again, that can be so
lindsey:
Thank
hannah_went:
true.
lindsey:
you.
hannah_went:
I knew when you asked that question which one I was. I was just like, it has to be this
lindsey:
Thank you. Thank
hannah_went:
one.
lindsey:
you.
hannah_went:
But I also like the pros and the cons kind of thing
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
you brought up because, again, people think something has a negative connotation bad, but it’s all how you interpret it, right? So sure, I may outwards, outwardly express my stress a little bit more than maybe your genotype, but if I’m able to handle that in journal or meditate and, and, you know, understand it a little
lindsey:
Thank you. Thank you.
hannah_went:
bit further than I can actually use that as a strength. So I think I agree with you on, on kind
lindsey:
Maclea.
hannah_went:
of, um, yeah, the mutation verbiage and whatnot can be a little bit disheartening. Mm hmm.
lindsey:
Totally. My, my CMT, I will add to this. One of the fun things about having the, the faster
hannah_went:
Thank you. Bye.
lindsey:
moving CMT or the faster enzymatic activity, we tend to be dopamine seekers. We tend to need a lot
hannah_went:
Mmm.
lindsey:
of stimulation in our lives. So we’re tended, we tend to get bored easily. We tend to have addictive personalities because we run a little bit lower on dopamine. So we’re always looking for things that are like giving
hannah_went:
Gotcha.
lindsey:
us that little burst. So we tend to maybe like caffeine people or snacky people, or sometimes we put ourselves into situations that might feel like they’re giving us a little mental
hannah_went:
And that’s
lindsey:
engagement.
hannah_went:
your variant, right?
lindsey:
Just
hannah_went:
That’s
lindsey:
really,
hannah_went:
yours, okay.
lindsey:
yeah, exactly. Yeah, so sometimes if we are not creating enough like
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
stimulation in our lives, and that can lead us down different type of behavioral patterns that may not
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
be so serving. So these are the kind of things that I just find super fascinating, when you kind of go into some of the brain chemistry, I really love kind of dissecting some of those things and how they show up. And there, I mean, I could really, you can expand on some of these thoughts, you know, for,
hannah_went:
Yeah, no, you really
lindsey:
for
hannah_went:
could.
lindsey:
days.
hannah_went:
There’s so much to talk about. So I think that was a great explanation of the COMT. What about the BDNF?
lindsey:
BDNF is another fun one. So BDNF stands for Brain Derived Neurotrophic Factor. And this is something that a lot of biohackers
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
are into. You’ll see people talking about, oh, this is going to boost my BDNF. And there are honestly about a million ways that you can stimulate this production. This one is
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
one that we have in common. So we actually both have the higher production or kind of the higher tier BDNF naturally. So that doesn’t mean that we can’t benefit from doing BDNF supporting activities like, I don’t know, intermittent fasting, hot and cold exposure, red light therapies, hit workouts, so many different things that can stimulate this production, but we tend to be on the higher tier of those. So a couple of the things that are unique to BDNF, it really helps to regulate neuroplasticity. So this is another one that can give some maybe lower tier clues as to how a person handles stress. Sometimes if you’re running higher on BDNF, that can actually correlate with higher cortisol levels. Sometimes you’re of like serotonin and dopamine, glutamate, some of those things. So that can show up in a lot of different ways. But typically people with a higher BDNF tend to be a little bit more resilient to change. They tend to not be so freaked out from things looking differently than maybe they have in the past or from learning things. They just seem to have a little bit of different kind of coping process with change in general,
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
which I think is really great. feel like they’re maybe stuck in having some emotional repercussions from having maybe a lack of BDNF can actually focus on doing a lot of things and maybe even stimulate this production in a holistic way. So deep sleep is kind
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
of a step one for boosting BDNF and definitely some, a lot of other things that we mentioned before, depending on their personality. If they’re into the biohacking stuff, then they’re going to get those sorts of benefits, but this is also someone who might want to actually work with. practitioner on neuroplasticity or something like that, they would get a lot of benefit out of that and it can be
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
really life-changing.
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
So
hannah_went:
That, that one
lindsey:
another
hannah_went:
is a
lindsey:
fun
hannah_went:
fun
lindsey:
one.
hannah_went:
one. I would say, I forgot to mention this on the COMT. I would say my sleep is pretty good. I definitely need my sleep. Right? I actually have like the, the whoop and, and started tracking maybe like a couple
lindsey:
Oh yeah.
hannah_went:
months ago was asked to join a community and, and you know, have been tracking, have never tracked anything before. So I, I’m usually always like 95% or a hundred, you know, to a hundred percent. So I, and unless I have like, uh, I don’t know, I’m staying up late
lindsey:
Thank
hannah_went:
for whatever
lindsey:
you.
hannah_went:
reason, um, and not probably doing,
lindsey:
Thank you.
hannah_went:
for my health or, you know, eating really close to bedtime, things like that. I can start to see the sleep not being so great. So I think that can get better. I also
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
typically tend to fall asleep too quickly. So I don’t think a lot of people realize that can be an issue, right? Where like you hit the pillow and you fall asleep right away because you’re just so, in my case, probably stressed and tired and just you actually really, really need it. So again, that could be something I can work on too. So I think, you know, sleep is, is definitely really
lindsey:
Bye.
hannah_went:
interesting in that realm. and
lindsey:
It is, yeah. And we’re all such different creatures,
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
you know? So part of it, I think, is that aspect of learned behaviors and patterns and habits, but
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
so much of it is chemistry. Because at the end of the day, we’re walking around in these giant chemical
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
experiments, chemistry experiments, and there’s so many things that you can learn and see opportunities to tweak things and
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
see a different perspective. And that’s the thing I think I’d love the most about the genomics perspective is that there are so many things that you’re gonna learn about. yourself that feel
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
just so beautiful and so just
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
validating, you know, and then there are so many things that you’re like, I had no idea that you were going to see that. I hear this all the time, I had no idea that that would be anything
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
related to genes. So
hannah_went:
Yeah, I
lindsey:
it’s
hannah_went:
think
lindsey:
a good
hannah_went:
like
lindsey:
mix
hannah_went:
when you’re
lindsey:
of
hannah_went:
going
lindsey:
both.
hannah_went:
through like when you went through my results with me, it’s like, Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense. And, you know, like the stars align type of thing. And you’re like, Okay, like, yeah,
lindsey:
with
hannah_went:
it is really beautiful, like learning more about maybe why you are the way you are a little bit, but also understanding kind of,
lindsey:
Yes.
hannah_went:
yeah, that underlying process. And again, like you keep preaching that the chemistry, the blueprint almost. But the, yeah, I think the ones that are really exciting
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
are I was like, Oh, maybe if I make this change, I’ll start to feel better in this realm or, you know, mentally, physically, et cetera. So it’s just super empowering, understanding your genes, knowing your
lindsey:
it
hannah_went:
makeup.
lindsey:
is.
hannah_went:
Um, so again, I can’t recommend this anymore. Like you, you have to know how your, your genetics is working. Um, I’m a firm believer in like lifestyle factors and like, if you, if you don’t have those lifestyle factors figured out, um, or at least regulated, know what you’re willing to give up, know what you’re not willing to give up. Be, be, you know, practical about it. But I’m a firm believer if you don’t have those figured out, you can’t move to the supplements, to the medications, to the procedural based things. But I think I’m actually going to start
lindsey:
Yep.
hannah_went:
changing my philosophy because I don’t think you can understand the lifestyle factors until you understand your genetics. So you have to go even a little bit deeper and then go into
lindsey:
Yep.
hannah_went:
kind of that pattern that I talked about.
lindsey:
Totally. Well, and you know, we all come into
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
our own, we all have our own path and our own journey and things that have shaped
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
our belief systems, you know, as far as what we deem to be appropriate for us, the way that we’re eating, the way that we’re moving, the way that we’re sleeping and stress management and all of these things. We all
hannah_went:
Thank
lindsey:
have
hannah_went:
you. Bye.
lindsey:
our own boundaries within ourselves
hannah_went:
Hmm.
lindsey:
and they come from somewhere. They’re learned from someone. And the thing is, when you start to really think about it, where did we get these things? Where did we get these beliefs and practices and things that we believe
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
to be true? about ourselves. And you know, the funny thing for me, the really ironic part about what I do and where my story really started was that when I was living in a body that was
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
twice my size, when I was over 300 pounds, I truly believe somewhere within me, I truly believed
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
that it was genetic. I really would have told anybody that like, oh, well, you know, maybe not my immediate family, but a lot of my cousins are similar,
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
have similar size and shape and things like that. That’s just
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
we are built and you just kind of learn to accept certain things and truly couldn’t have been further
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
from the truth. And so I think there are just and that’s a very
hannah_went:
Right.
lindsey:
dramatic example of that but I think there are so many things that people these are things that I hear over the years of like
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
oh I’m not a good sleeper or oh I don’t I have terrible digestion or whatever the thing is that maybe truth and so many times there are some really easy and accessible things that you can do to actually rewrite that story and to have a different approach that’s going to work better
hannah_went:
Definitely.
lindsey:
than anything you’ve ever
hannah_went:
Yeah,
lindsey:
known.
hannah_went:
challenge your
lindsey:
So.
hannah_went:
thoughts. Challenge those beliefs when you say, oh, I can’t, or I’m stuck here, I’m a bad this, I’m a bad that. You know, a lot of those things are skills that we can learn to change. We just need the right tools and the toolbox to understand how to move forward from here. So yeah, I encourage everyone to challenge their thoughts, you know, ask the hard questions, right? I think the people
lindsey:
Thank you.
hannah_went:
who
lindsey:
Thank you.
hannah_went:
I look up to the most in terms of, you know, mentors or whatnot and kind of the space of health longevity and just being happy and on a spiritual level, they may not know everything and that’s okay. We don’t know what we don’t know, but they are the ones who are challenging. They’re actually asking the question. So I think that’s just super powerful. But
lindsey:
Yes.
hannah_went:
yeah, Lindsay, again, this has been so eye-opening. This has been great. So epigenetic coaching really for anyone who wants to learn more one versus one conversation. Life Lab is more like you’re saying for that group and you offer a lot of things all a cart, more testing and biomarkers available for more of like a, you said a membership program type of thing, right?
lindsey:
Yeah, so it’s a membership. You basically have access to some different free workshops and things like that we do each month. We have some, we’re doing a meditation
hannah_went:
Oh.
lindsey:
practice this afternoon. And so some of the things are just like community driven things. Some of them are a little bit more educational. But essentially, it kind of puts you in the driver’s seat, because then you can book a session one off, you don’t have to buy like a huge coaching package or anything like that. It just takes a lot of the pressure off of the commitment. It’s a very low commitment, I think, offering, help
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
where you need it instead of just doing these like
hannah_went:
That makes
lindsey:
package
hannah_went:
sense.
lindsey:
programs. So
hannah_went:
Yeah. And, um,
lindsey:
yeah.
hannah_went:
and in terms of, um, you know, you probably get this question all the time as well, like how can I do what you do? Or how can I learn all of that? You know,
lindsey:
याएएएएए
hannah_went:
do you have like a, a type of coaching program where people can like learn to do everything and kind of follow your models in a different, in a different way?
lindsey:
I do. I literally do exactly that. If you want to do what I do, come on in. I will teach you exactly how to do it, exactly how to fall in love with it, how to be efficient at it, and to also build a very profitable business. Um, and also change a lot of people’s lives. It’s the coolest thing. So this idea came up, we started it last year, and it was one of those things where I had the crazy wild hair idea and I had a couple of people actually approached me and asked me if I had something like this. something within me to say
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
like why not? You know, I will say the training that I went through about five years ago was incredibly dense and incredibly clinical and also one of those things where I’m like man
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
I’m not sure if I’m going to make it through this and of course I did and I am obviously here and on the other side but the thing that I really wanted to bring into the world was something that was a little bit more appropriate for the health coaches, for people who are not
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
perhaps that goes into the super, super clinical. We’re keeping it
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
very foundational, very holistic, and we’re talking about how to actually take our reports and give a really empowering reading, and where to dig in to find the low-hanging fruit for someone who maybe just wants to make a couple of lifestyle tweaks, as well as some of the more advanced biohacky things that are really, it’s all there in one place. And then also how to talk to people about genetics, because it can feel
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
very at first. And you know, a lot of people would come into this space and think, who am I
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
to be talking about this? And
hannah_went:
Right,
lindsey:
we all have
hannah_went:
yeah.
lindsey:
the right, right? We all have the capacity to have these conversations. And I’ve seen, so far it’s been 100% women come through my certification. So that’s kind of cool. It’s not
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
a rule, but just saying so far it’s all been women. So that’s kind of exciting to me. But I’ve had people who have really niche specialty. So I have a coach that specializes
hannah_went:
Uh-huh.
lindsey:
I have one that specializes in histamine issues and muscle activation and stuff like that. More autoimmune type clients have some that are specializing in midlife women’s health and pretty much everything under the sun. Some that are actually, I have two actually that are hair loss
hannah_went:
Wow.
lindsey:
specialists. They work with clients on really deep, high level lifestyle and biochemical changes that are going to support healthy hair growth and targeting people who are
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
struggling with that. Some people get very specific and some people keep it a little bit more broad, but you can honestly take this technology and do so many things with it that my my wish is to get a million people
hannah_went:
Ah.
lindsey:
doing this and helping a million clients, you know, and just really to grow this awareness and empower people to feel better about what they have been given. They’re little God given genes,
hannah_went:
Yeah, that’s
lindsey:
you know?
hannah_went:
amazing.
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
And you’re helping your training other people to do that same thing. So you’re only adding in the numbers and it’s just going to compound and compound. And, um, I love that, uh, you also have people who have very niche specialties. So if there is someone who, you know, maybe seeing you or another more like generalized, uh, epigenetic coach, maybe they want to dive a little bit further. You could even make referrals or kind of say, Hey, like there’s other testing available
lindsey:
Thank you.
hannah_went:
and they can go kind of in that deep dive. So. That’s just amazing. I think, yeah, for anyone who’s looking into maybe learning a little bit more about this event, not necessarily starting a business from it,
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
but maybe they could kind of hop on that program as well. And
lindsey:
way.
hannah_went:
I think, Lindsay, we’re kind of coming to the end here. I have a couple more questions for you. I have a million more, but a couple I definitely
lindsey:
Thank you.
hannah_went:
want to
lindsey:
Thank you.
hannah_went:
get to. I think most
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
people who are listening are thinking, why does this matter to me? Like how is this going to be life changing? And I always want to relate it back to, you know, how your epigenetics and how your genetics can help you. So, you know, you have
lindsey:
Wow.
hannah_went:
a great social media presence and you always talk about some of these case studies like these before and afters. You know, I haven’t had much time to put my kind of genetic information into place and, you know, see changes yet. So do you just want to give like a couple of real world examples studies on what you’ve seen. That’d be great.
lindsey:
Yeah. Definitely. I will say the best case studies are sometimes from the individuals who have been struggling the most. And sometimes quite often we do see these really dramatic transformations. And, and you know, here’s the thing, not everyone is in need of a dramatic transformation. So, you know, there’s that. But I will say I will start with myself first because I am someone who is like a very typical client. I was having a lot of digestive issues, test on the planet. I had an every functional test. I was spending literally
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
every penny that I had on functional practitioners and literally no one was was pointing me in the right direction. No one could really find any substantial answers and I had honestly started to kind of give up. I had really kind of gone into this place of like managing where we were and and not really thinking that things were going to improve or that I would ever really find much resolution and I will tell you got my own report back. Literally, in the one day, my life changed. And I was literally
hannah_went:
Ah.
lindsey:
like full face crying, like sobbing, because so many answers were there for me that made 100% sense. And these are things that honestly, like you don’t, there’s so many things you can see in the genes that you can’t see through other
hannah_went:
Mm.
lindsey:
modalities, you can’t see all of these things through the blood, you can’t see them through stool testing or whatever the thing is. Some things you just have to look at the genes. And that was very much the case for me. So in an instant, I realized, Hannah, that literally all of the practitioners had me on the wrong supplements for my chemistry, and we’re just very much missing
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
the details, because they just didn’t have those insights. And not to shame them, I mean, they had the best of intentions, but they just didn’t have this, this type of perspective. And so getting the genetics perspective for me was the only thing that truly allowed me to
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
go in and heal my gut. So a lot of times, you know, some of the other testing can be very helpful. But it’s not necessarily going to go as deep as you can see
hannah_went:
Yes.
lindsey:
in the genes. So I started to do two things, two main things, a lot of things, but two main things change my health entirely. One of them was learning that I have a high, high, high sensitivity
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
to glutamates. So for me, all of the collagen supplements that my people had me on, all the bone broth they had me drinking, all of the L-glutamine
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
that they had me taking, and I’m talking mega dosing, high glutamine, because it’s great for
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
leaky gut, right? Not for everyone, it turns out. And it was actually perpetuating the problem for me. So that was something that was actually keeping my gut more inflamed.
hannah_went:
Gotcha.
lindsey:
So as soon as I was able to remove the wrong supplements and get some different tools in the toolkit, that was a huge, huge turning point. Honestly gave me my life back. The other thing that I started to work
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
with was methylation. So literally out of all of the thousands of dollars that I had spent, no one ever
hannah_went:
Hmm.
lindsey:
methylation to me. And it turned out that that was something that I was like a textbook
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
walking case desperately needed methylation support. And these are just major chemical, very complex processes that, you know, honestly, it’s just something that everyone
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
should know, because it is so prevalent. It’s not going to affect everyone in the same way, but it affects almost everyone. And to some people, these can
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
be life changing. And so it wasn’t a big fix. It was of supplements, a couple of B vitamins, nothing crazy, and
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
it was life-changing. And then suddenly within literally a week’s time, my stomach was calming down, the inflammation was going down, my brain was working like it hadn’t in
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
years. So for anyone out there who might be struggling with digestive disorder or leaky gut or anything like that, you might know that brain fog is a real deal, and it is very miserable. I felt like I lost
hannah_went:
Mm.
lindsey:
my personality degree for a lot of years. And so being able to see that fast of a turnaround just by having some of those really deep level chemical tweaks,
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
it’s a game changer. So those were the two of the major things for me. I’ve had a lot of clients over the years dealing with really vague, complex
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
things that nobody can really diagnose. So one of the things that comes to mind that’s actually really, really common these days living in the world of post-COVID
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
is a lot of histamine issues. And so a lot of people will actually experience more histamine responses than perhaps they ever have before as a result of
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
going through COVID. And it doesn’t affect everyone that way. It’s very strange. And I mean, we’ve all heard stories of how different people have been impacted and different depths. But this is one of the things that
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
I’m seeing very commonly. And this is something that, you know, there aren’t a lot of different things you can do for histamines without really understanding some of the
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
genetic having the keys to the castle. And so for people who are having those, like, all of a sudden they’re telling me they’re reacting to everything. Like, they feel like everything that they eat is making
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
them sick, or they’re having like these rashes or hives or, you know, I’ve seen the wildest things, and they just literally feel like they’ve kind of been thrown
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
into a different body. And these are the types of things that we can sort out because looking at the genetics, you’re actually going to the foundational, you know, the,
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
you’re seeing the tripwires
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
in the body, and you’re basically going of cellular function and being able to plug in a different experience. So super,
hannah_went:
Yeah,
lindsey:
super powerful.
hannah_went:
it really is. I love that you use yourself as like the case study and the example. And I think, yeah, I mean,
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
you lived it. I mean, this was extremely life changing for you, considering how successful you are and kind of your programs and everything that you’re doing now. So I just think everyone can benefit from this. I think genetics are really the piece of the puzzle that makes everything click. And then you can kind of move forward from there. And
lindsey:
Yep.
hannah_went:
I know you said, your main goal is to have one million patients and people your program, which is just such a great goal. I’m excited to keep up with you and, you know, hopefully you’re on your way, you’re reaching that. But what are you most excited about? Is there anything that’s coming next that you’re like, oh, I can’t wait to roll this out to my clientele or whether it’s like a different insight or new gene or new maybe, yeah, kind of product.
lindsey:
Yeah,
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
actually so many things. So I love this question. I actually just went through a major software migration and we’re kind of we’re actually like in the final stages of it right now. So we have new panels, new markers that we haven’t ever had access to before. So that’s super nerdy, exciting. So I’m excited to roll that out. But honestly, okay, you didn’t bait me for this, but I walked right into it. I just, what was it a week ago, I just actually sent in my first epigenetic test
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
with true diagnostic. this I am super, super excited about. I want to actually bring this
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
into the Life Lab. And so this is one of those things where I think we can all
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
kind of benefit from looking at some different, some metrics that are actually going to tell
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
if what we’re doing is working, you know, to a higher level. Like obviously we can see some differences, we can feel some differences, but looking deeper into the chemistry
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
from a different perspective, I think is just so cool. So I know that a lot of my members are going to be really excited to get their And also, I think it’s something that just feels like,
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
what a great motivator, you know? Because I know that I just took this test. We’re gonna get some insights about where I’m at currently. And I know that I’m gonna
hannah_went:
Mm-hmm.
lindsey:
do it again in six months-ish. And I know that I want that second test to be better than the one that I just sent in. So it’s kind of like this fun little motivator. It’s like I’m dangling the carrot to see how my body is
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
actually responding. And what a beautiful kind of testament to what we’re doing and putting things perspective, right? So I think a lot of times as women, and many of us who may have like a body goal, I know I certainly am working with one right now. And sometimes it’s easy to lose sight
hannah_went:
Yes.
lindsey:
of the big picture and how what the intention is there. And I will always say, I tell my clients and my members, we’re not trying
hannah_went:
Mm-mm.
lindsey:
to shrink ourselves. I’m not trying to make myself smaller. I’m actually in a place in life right now where I’m doing this so that I can feel really good when I’m
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
65, you know, and of course, I want to look up when I’m 65. but I want to feel good. I want to be able to do whatever I want to do when
hannah_went:
Yeah,
lindsey:
I’m 75
hannah_went:
I was gonna say feel better. Yeah.
lindsey:
and not, yeah. And just
hannah_went:
Yeah.
lindsey:
keep the wheels greased, you know? I think it’s gonna be a really cool tool to use and kind of keep that motivation and perspective as, hey, I am doing a lot of things that I enjoy that aren’t for the faint of heart sometimes, you know? Some of us who are going above and beyond, it’s great to kind of keep that perspective
hannah_went:
Definitely. I think,
lindsey:
we’re
hannah_went:
because
lindsey:
doing these
hannah_went:
I spend
lindsey:
things.
hannah_went:
most of my time training healthcare providers up on, you know, true diagnostic testing, who I work for and how to use it. But I just think you have to look through it through multiple lens. So I always say that you should do genetic and epigenetic testing side by side, figure everything out from a genetic level, retest with the epigenetics, even if it’s just the pace of aging. So you give yourself six months to make those changes and then you see that pace of aging go down. And Lindsay, I’ll tell you right now, I mean, I, to so many healthcare providers and no one has that data. So if you create that, then that’s
lindsey:
right.
hannah_went:
your own. You can actually say, oh, wow, we see these. I mean, there’s, there’s a lot, we’ll talk offline about the, the
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
opportunities for publication and different things in the sort, but that’s just exciting in itself. So, so
lindsey:
You
hannah_went:
yeah,
lindsey:
cool.
hannah_went:
we’re, I have one more question for you. I ask at the end of every single podcast.
lindsey:
Okay.
hannah_went:
It’s, I always call it a curveball question,
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
What would you be and why?
lindsey:
Oh my gosh, I would absolutely be
hannah_went:
Oh.
lindsey:
a dog. And I almost wanna say my dog, because my husband and I joke all the time that we’re like, oh my gosh, if we could have a day in her life just for once to like lay around, lounge, play, eat, go outside, all the things
hannah_went:
Yes.
lindsey:
and just be so curious and playful. But I think I would actually be like, my dog’s best friend
hannah_went:
Oh!
lindsey:
is who I would be. So I could like hang out with her and like talk to her, not to
hannah_went:
That’s
lindsey:
be my dog.
hannah_went:
good.
lindsey:
I
hannah_went:
That’s it.
lindsey:
don’t know.
hannah_went:
No.
lindsey:
That’s weird.
hannah_went:
No, someone has said before on the show, yes, they’re dog. And I’ve thought about that too. Like, oh, you get your belly rubs, you eat, you sleep. And I tell my fiance, oh, I’d
lindsey:
now.
hannah_went:
love to be like Evie, our dog for a day. She’s a big Bernice Mountain dog.
lindsey:
Well,
hannah_went:
But I like the perspective of being your dog’s friend. Because then, yeah, you could actually live in their world and stuff. So that’s awesome. You knew the answer to that one, and I liked it.
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
Well, cool, Lindsay. We’ve come to the end of this amazing podcast. For anyone who wants to reach out, where can they find you?
lindsey:
Instagram. I’m at the designer jeans co websites the same and you can learn a little bit more about the work that I do. There’s also a link there if you want to book a consultation always open for that and yeah always love to connect with people and do a little education
hannah_went:
Yeah,
lindsey:
on
hannah_went:
definitely
lindsey:
social
hannah_went:
follow,
lindsey:
media.
hannah_went:
follow around social media. I know you’ve been working on your TikTok. I just like love all your stories and everything. I’m so curious myself. Um, she has a lot of those like case studies and things and dives into your genes even further. So, um, definitely give her a follow, but,
lindsey:
Yeah.
hannah_went:
uh, to everyone listening, thank you for joining us at the everything epigenetics podcast. And remember you have control over your epigenetics. So tune in next time to learn more. Thanks Lindsay.
lindsey:
Awesome, thanks for having me.
